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The Ecumenical Vatican Council II: A Much Needed Discussion

There is a brief post on this book at

You can get this important book written by Msgr. Bruno Gherardini by emailing

This is the Catholic publisher.  You simply email them and give your address, saying you want the book.  They will send it. The person manning that email address speaks fluent English but the printed  invoice that comes with the book is in Italian and furthermore lacks an  address (see below, however). They will send you the book and the invoice in euros, and you will end up checking the day’s exchange rate (just google exchange rate and fill in the blanks), and then sending a check (or money order you can get at the post office) for the appropriate amount to Italy, there being no mention of PayPal or Visa-readiness (however, when you email them, you might ask–popularity of this work may have changed the situation). The price is presently (May 2010) ten euros, plus 8,70 euros for shipping.  That’s how they write it, with a comma where we’d have a period, in English. At the exchange rate in effect in May,  2010, that came out to 23.00 and change, and that rounds up nicely to anything you’d care to donate for this effort on their part in support of truth. I gave thirty bucks and now that I think about it, I ought to be ashamed to be so stingy, since this book is another very important step in the right direction and so, of course, the forces of hell are against it.

The mailing address provided upon inquiry, since it is not printed on the invoice, is

83040  FRIGENTO  (AV)

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Janet, can you tell us a little more about this book, perhaps in another article? Who wrote it, what is his/her background, what are its best features, maybe some quotes? Thanks!

Comment by Chris Brennan

Yes, I was thinking of giving some of the more interesting quotes from the book. Didn’t I put who wrote it? Aye! I’ll edit this post for that, and work on capturing some quotes from it. Thank you.

Comment by thewhitelilyblog

Now, Chris, you will see I did it!

Comment by thewhitelilyblog

I just reread the Council,..and the fun part is its relative ambiguity! There were no infallible dogmas or doctrines declared, just a more pastoral approach towards living our Faith. I had a discussion recently with a priest who still clings to the ‘Spirit’ of the Council regarding Mass (It kinda looks like Cirque du Soleil,..sadly)

Comment by Marco

Dude! My celebrity visitor! How’s it going in your world? I’m impressed you could spell Cirque du Soleil, which I cannot. I once witnessed it, though, the Cirque du Soleil mass–in a mass held in a (very casually cleaned) bullring outside Puerto Vallarta. Instead of descending a labyrinthian (spell that!) stone stairway into the ring to receive the host, people hung over the railing on the first seating tier and caught the Sacred Host, which ‘eucharist ministers’ tossed up into their hands, over several inches, depending on how long their arms were. I thought I was going to pass out. But listen, Marco, the poisoned words in the constitutions of Vatican II are buried and you really need an exorcist-guide to dust them out of the sixties hooray glitz we’re so used to. I said the same thing when I read the constitutions. But they are there, and ever since, they have secretly guided the abuses attributed to a false, unintended ‘spirit’ that followed the Council. Lefebvre’s ‘Letter to Confused Catholics’ is a good guide and you might pick it up. Want me to send you one? That thing about Vatican II being nothing important, nothing dangerous, just a pastoral council, that was an inspired dodge. By naming it that, they didn’t have to run anything past the official Church theologians. Has the Council teaching been used just as if it were doctrinal? That’s the problem. But we’re going to fix it, man. You and I have to pray and of course keep learning.

Comment by thewhitelilyblog

God Bless your passion! I love it! Stay close to the Rosary! Remember the battle of Lepanto,..Our Lady is on the case with regards to abuses and the Holy Father is positioning the Church for a new Inquisition! It’s slow, but the Church has always moved slowly kinda like turning an aircraft carrier! lol! I would appreciate the letter to confused Catholics if you have a copy online that would be cool! As for spelling ‘Cirque du Soleil’ remember I’m half french canadien, I learned french before english! 🙂

God Bless!

Comment by Marco

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Hi. Thanks so much for all of this wonderful information about this book!

Question: when you order the book from these Franciscans, is the book in English? Have they translated it to English yet?

Comment by Joseph

Yes, it is in English. I hope you come back and get this comment! Hello!

Comment by thewhitelilyblog

Oh, and Joseph, see an earlier comment, that’s where someone told me a US place to buy it. I haven’t verified that info, but I personally used the Italian vendor.

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