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		<title>Comment on How To Gain a Plenary Indulgence by Help A Brother Out &#171; The White Lily Blog</title>
		<link>http://thewhitelilyblog.wordpress.com/how-to-gain-a-plenary-indulgence/#comment-471</link>
		<dc:creator>Help A Brother Out &#171; The White Lily Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How To Gain a Plenary&#160;Indulgence [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on America Magazine: Obama is the Vatican II President by The Rockin' Traddy</title>
		<link>http://thewhitelilyblog.wordpress.com/2009/08/25/america-magazine-obama-is-the-vatican-ii-president/#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator>The Rockin' Traddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry is VII. Ha! I like it!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Fashion and Faith by Marie-Jacqueline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie-Jacqueline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jan, You made a great connection here: those who insist, &quot;Take me as I am,&quot; need to ask, &quot;Where am I being taken?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan, You made a great connection here: those who insist, &#8220;Take me as I am,&#8221; need to ask, &#8220;Where am I being taken?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fashion and Faith by thewhitelilyblog</title>
		<link>http://thewhitelilyblog.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/fashion-and-faith/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>thewhitelilyblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This morning I woke dreaming about the scenario discussed on NPR&#039;s On Point, about a book called America on the Brink: It Could Happen Here [http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/10/will-inequality-lead-to-revolution]. The program pretty thoroughly covered the complete destruction of the middle class in the US, and one cannot help but relate it to dress. We no longer dress like the middle class. We dress like peons. And we are paid peon wages now. No relation? Right. It doesn&#039;t cost more or less to dress like a peon. It&#039;s just a statement, I suppose of your level of aspiration. I know a woman in a skirt gets treated very differently than a woman in a pair of jeans with her thong showing. Now I&#039;m thinking we get paid differently too.

There was a program recently too on foreclosures, with footage of a gorgeous house, marble foyer and all the rest, and the owner couple looked like caretakers, with sweat shirts, jeans, hair falling over their faces, and overweight. They looked as if they didn&#039;t belong there. And now they don&#039;t. It wouldn&#039;t have cost that woman a dime more to put on a housedress, yet even a television camera wouldn&#039;t budge her from her spoiled insistence, Take me as I am. 

I learned about the SSPX community because of their dress. I was living in Puerto Vallarta during the last Eucharistic Convension, and a man who went to Guadalajara to attend came home and told me excitedly that there had been a group in the procession &quot;como usted!&quot; like me, &quot;muy guapo,&quot; handsome. He went on to describe how beautifully they were dressed that caused him to make the connection with me (I always wore skirts in Mexico, too; good caution for a woman traveling alone, I had found).  I went to find them, and encountered a group as poor as all the rest of Mexico, but not perceived as such because of how they clothed themselves for the world. And it gave them power!

I awoke this morning with the perception,after listening to NPR&#039;s chilling program, Please help us, please help us save the shreds of dignity we have left here, save our wages, save the small benefits we have wrested out of the earth and the rich over the hard-scrabble generations: get your daughters out of those jeans! Dress them as women who deserve marriage and a home and medical care and respect! Because right now we are dressing like inmates of the concentration camps they&#039;re preparing for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning I woke dreaming about the scenario discussed on NPR&#8217;s On Point, about a book called America on the Brink: It Could Happen Here [http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/10/will-inequality-lead-to-revolution]. The program pretty thoroughly covered the complete destruction of the middle class in the US, and one cannot help but relate it to dress. We no longer dress like the middle class. We dress like peons. And we are paid peon wages now. No relation? Right. It doesn&#8217;t cost more or less to dress like a peon. It&#8217;s just a statement, I suppose of your level of aspiration. I know a woman in a skirt gets treated very differently than a woman in a pair of jeans with her thong showing. Now I&#8217;m thinking we get paid differently too.</p>
<p>There was a program recently too on foreclosures, with footage of a gorgeous house, marble foyer and all the rest, and the owner couple looked like caretakers, with sweat shirts, jeans, hair falling over their faces, and overweight. They looked as if they didn&#8217;t belong there. And now they don&#8217;t. It wouldn&#8217;t have cost that woman a dime more to put on a housedress, yet even a television camera wouldn&#8217;t budge her from her spoiled insistence, Take me as I am. </p>
<p>I learned about the SSPX community because of their dress. I was living in Puerto Vallarta during the last Eucharistic Convension, and a man who went to Guadalajara to attend came home and told me excitedly that there had been a group in the procession &#8220;como usted!&#8221; like me, &#8220;muy guapo,&#8221; handsome. He went on to describe how beautifully they were dressed that caused him to make the connection with me (I always wore skirts in Mexico, too; good caution for a woman traveling alone, I had found).  I went to find them, and encountered a group as poor as all the rest of Mexico, but not perceived as such because of how they clothed themselves for the world. And it gave them power!</p>
<p>I awoke this morning with the perception,after listening to NPR&#8217;s chilling program, Please help us, please help us save the shreds of dignity we have left here, save our wages, save the small benefits we have wrested out of the earth and the rich over the hard-scrabble generations: get your daughters out of those jeans! Dress them as women who deserve marriage and a home and medical care and respect! Because right now we are dressing like inmates of the concentration camps they&#8217;re preparing for us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Benedict Know That Rome is Burning? by thewhitelilyblog</title>
		<link>http://thewhitelilyblog.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/does-benedict-know-that-rome-is-burning/#comment-420</link>
		<dc:creator>thewhitelilyblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comment, Anne. Please look at the Vatican website, which link I have put below, in which the Holy Father unfortunately does not need the AP to lie for him (although you are right in saying it does lie). He makes a point of praising the last several months of political life in the US,which can only be Obama&#039;s administration, makes a point of praising Obama&#039;s leadership in nuclear arms reduction, and most of all to the point of my post,praises to the skies the vibrancy of the United States pluralistic society&#039;s democracy, which, if he were adhering to the tradition of the Church, to Leo XIII, to Pius IX, to Pius XII,he simply could not praise. Nor can we! It is this pluralism that is allowing abortion and there is no way to excuse it or cover for it. Please read the encyclicals--read simply the Syllabus of errors. The Church&#039;s teaching is not extinct! Its prophecies are just now bearing fruit, and your and my children are paying the unspeakable price! Pluralism, freedom of conscience, equality under the law of the Church and devil worship? It cannot be. It cannot be praised. It must be fought. Instead, we keep living on hope.

Diaz, by the way, a Catholic, was an Obama contributor. This alone should have caused the Holy Father to refuse to accept his credentials.

Here is the Vatican transcript of the remarks: http://212.77.1.245/news_services/bulletin/news/24428.php?index=24428&amp;lang=en</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comment, Anne. Please look at the Vatican website, which link I have put below, in which the Holy Father unfortunately does not need the AP to lie for him (although you are right in saying it does lie). He makes a point of praising the last several months of political life in the US,which can only be Obama&#8217;s administration, makes a point of praising Obama&#8217;s leadership in nuclear arms reduction, and most of all to the point of my post,praises to the skies the vibrancy of the United States pluralistic society&#8217;s democracy, which, if he were adhering to the tradition of the Church, to Leo XIII, to Pius IX, to Pius XII,he simply could not praise. Nor can we! It is this pluralism that is allowing abortion and there is no way to excuse it or cover for it. Please read the encyclicals&#8211;read simply the Syllabus of errors. The Church&#8217;s teaching is not extinct! Its prophecies are just now bearing fruit, and your and my children are paying the unspeakable price! Pluralism, freedom of conscience, equality under the law of the Church and devil worship? It cannot be. It cannot be praised. It must be fought. Instead, we keep living on hope.</p>
<p>Diaz, by the way, a Catholic, was an Obama contributor. This alone should have caused the Holy Father to refuse to accept his credentials.</p>
<p>Here is the Vatican transcript of the remarks: <a href="http://212.77.1.245/news_services/bulletin/news/24428.php?index=24428&amp;lang=en" rel="nofollow">http://212.77.1.245/news_services/bulletin/news/24428.php?index=24428&amp;lang=en</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Benedict Know That Rome is Burning? by Anne</title>
		<link>http://thewhitelilyblog.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/does-benedict-know-that-rome-is-burning/#comment-419</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He did not &quot;praise&quot; Obama. The AP report put that word in his mouth ( surprise, surprise). Don&#039;t always trust these media stories. You should know it by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He did not &#8220;praise&#8221; Obama. The AP report put that word in his mouth ( surprise, surprise). Don&#8217;t always trust these media stories. You should know it by now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Benedict Know That Rome is Burning? by thewhitelilyblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>thewhitelilyblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Idiota, the topic of his appointments is another post altogether. But his version of ecumenism does not mean conversion. Please read Caritatis verite again and tell me that the world religion he is suggesting is Catholic. But dear heart, I do pray for him. I pray for him and I pray he listens to SSPX. And I am grateful to him for making the gesture of freeing the traditional mass. He is certainly in the most difficult of positions. You do not say if you are actively fighting any of the issues facing us here--abortion, homosexual activism, all the rest. His praise of Obama does not help American Catholics help America &#039;form a conscience,&#039; does it, do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idiota, the topic of his appointments is another post altogether. But his version of ecumenism does not mean conversion. Please read Caritatis verite again and tell me that the world religion he is suggesting is Catholic. But dear heart, I do pray for him. I pray for him and I pray he listens to SSPX. And I am grateful to him for making the gesture of freeing the traditional mass. He is certainly in the most difficult of positions. You do not say if you are actively fighting any of the issues facing us here&#8211;abortion, homosexual activism, all the rest. His praise of Obama does not help American Catholics help America &#8216;form a conscience,&#8217; does it, do you think?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Benedict Know That Rome is Burning? by idiota</title>
		<link>http://thewhitelilyblog.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/does-benedict-know-that-rome-is-burning/#comment-417</link>
		<dc:creator>idiota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pope Saint Gregory the Great was so polite to the Byzantine emperors and other lords of his age that today it positively looks like kow-towing and grovelling. It wasn&#039;t. The saint knew that the big political powers were utter scum. This is called diplomacy. Pope Benedict knows exactly what&#039;s going on. &lt;strong&gt;HIS&lt;/strong&gt; view of ecumenism means conversion to Catholicism, and we must back him! Watch who he appoints as bishops as the decrepit liberals of the late 20th century die off. There are so few good men available! Pray for the Pope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pope Saint Gregory the Great was so polite to the Byzantine emperors and other lords of his age that today it positively looks like kow-towing and grovelling. It wasn&#8217;t. The saint knew that the big political powers were utter scum. This is called diplomacy. Pope Benedict knows exactly what&#8217;s going on. <strong>HIS</strong> view of ecumenism means conversion to Catholicism, and we must back him! Watch who he appoints as bishops as the decrepit liberals of the late 20th century die off. There are so few good men available! Pray for the Pope.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Council Pow-Wow and Pro-Life by thewhitelilyblog</title>
		<link>http://thewhitelilyblog.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/the-council-pow-wow-and-pro-life/#comment-403</link>
		<dc:creator>thewhitelilyblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Dignitas humanae uses this very scriptural reference, and another as well, &quot;He does not break the crumpled reed and does not put out the smoking wick&quot; from the same passage. However, the Lord did not grant the cockle the right not to be uprooted. It is rather a matter of prudence and of charity. As Archbishop Lefebvre wrote, &quot;It is better sometimes not to scandalize the faithful by the spectacle of the repression of unbelievers; at times it is better to avoid a civil war that non-tolerance would instigate. . . .Likewise, if Jesus does not break the crumpled reed and makes of this a pastoral rule for his apostles, it is by charity towards those who are led astray, in order not to turn them farther away from the truth. . . .but such a duty does not of itself confer on others any right!&quot; The Council made these matters a right. There is a world of difference, and we are seeing the consequences of it as chaos reigns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Dignitas humanae uses this very scriptural reference, and another as well, &#8220;He does not break the crumpled reed and does not put out the smoking wick&#8221; from the same passage. However, the Lord did not grant the cockle the right not to be uprooted. It is rather a matter of prudence and of charity. As Archbishop Lefebvre wrote, &#8220;It is better sometimes not to scandalize the faithful by the spectacle of the repression of unbelievers; at times it is better to avoid a civil war that non-tolerance would instigate. . . .Likewise, if Jesus does not break the crumpled reed and makes of this a pastoral rule for his apostles, it is by charity towards those who are led astray, in order not to turn them farther away from the truth. . . .but such a duty does not of itself confer on others any right!&#8221; The Council made these matters a right. There is a world of difference, and we are seeing the consequences of it as chaos reigns.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Council Pow-Wow and Pro-Life by Kath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Some who are intent on severe disciplinary principles which admonish us to rebuke the restless, not to give what is holy to dogs,to consider a despiser of the Church as a heathen, to cut off from the unified structure of the body the member which causes scandal, so disturb the peace of the Church that they try to separate the wheat from the chaff before the proper time{Mathew13:29). Blinded by this error&#039; they are themselves separated instead from the unity of Christ&quot;. St Augustine of Hippo Faith and Works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Some who are intent on severe disciplinary principles which admonish us to rebuke the restless, not to give what is holy to dogs,to consider a despiser of the Church as a heathen, to cut off from the unified structure of the body the member which causes scandal, so disturb the peace of the Church that they try to separate the wheat from the chaff before the proper time{Mathew13:29). Blinded by this error&#8217; they are themselves separated instead from the unity of Christ&#8221;. St Augustine of Hippo Faith and Works.</p>
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